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REFORM UK SLAMS REMOVAL OF WELSH FLAGS BY PLAID CYMRU IN CARMARTHENSHIRE

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social media post has highlighted the removal of Welsh flags by Carmarthenshire County Council, which is currently run by Plaid Cymru.

The post shows that lampposts that were previously adorned with flags of Wales as part of “Operation Raise the Colours” have now had the flags removed by the Plaid-run local authority.

In response, Reform UK Carmarthenshire County Councillor Michelle Beer has called out the “hypocrisy” of Plaid Cymru, pointing out that the “so-called ‘Party of Wales’… is actively undermining the symbols that bind us as a nation”.

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This follows a recent announcement by all 12 Reform UK-controlled councils in England committing that they will not be removing Union and St George’s Cross flags from lampposts.

Reform UK Carmarthenshire County Councillor Michelle Beer said:

“It is with deep disappointment that we witness the Plaid Cymru-led council’s decision to remove Welsh flags from lampposts across our county. 

“The Welsh flag, a proud symbol of our heritage and identity, has long served as a unifying emblem for the people of Wales, fostering togetherness and national pride. Yet, Plaid Cymru – the so-called ‘Party of Wales’ – has chosen to strip this powerful symbol from our streets. 

“This move is not only misguided but demonstrates hypocrisy. Plaid Cymru, a party that claims to champion Welsh identity and culture, is actively undermining the symbols that bind us as a nation. Their decision does not reflect the spirit of unity our nation holds dear.”

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105 COMMENTS

  1. That’s a joke as reform want to remove devolution and the bilingual languages . If they get into Westminster, Wales becomes a 3rd rate English county !

      • Dai Davies I read that but as I have not decided who I am voting for , reform for me at this moment is totally anti Welsh / Wales . I am yet to be convinced as their policies if you read them will really hammer the people of Wales ! Major cuts to DWP, cuts in pip, means tested pensions , remove diversity that hits disabled, remove human rights , takes away our employment rights . Doge introduced the same as the USA which cost them billions rather than save anything . Jobs gone . They are the worst possible thing that Wales could get at the moment . The Welsh gov needs bringing up to date , but not seeing anyone convincing enough to do it .

    • Gareth R Thomas Reform can get stuffed with that suppression of Wales! I did see Nige’ pull a face when their Welsh politician spoke and said a sweet sentence in spoken Welsh. sorry Reform but aren’t we the lucky ones who are bilingual? …. Welsh language is the fist language its the language of Wales ‘Welsh’, Spanish in Spain, German in Germany and so on, Emglish is the national and worldwide spoken language but Welsh belongs in Wales and cannot not be taken off the Welsh those passionate,proud and beloved people thats insane! Would we want to remove the English language from the English or tell the Irish or Scottish people also celts its tutty bye to their language and heritage NOPE MATE!

    • Gareth R Thomas agreed – they will attack the Welsh language by removing funding from Welsh medium schools – whether you are a fluent Welsh speaker or not – the language is the beating heart of our history & culture – we must defend it.
      I am not fluent but I recognise it’s preeminence in Wales. It is us 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 ‘O bydded i’r hen iaith barhau’ 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

    • Gareth R Thomas bullshit there is no evidence to support this I don’t know why I’m bothering replying to all you narrow minded people who can’t see that the only way wales is going to survive is voting for reform we are losing millions by companies who don’t want to invest in wales because of what labour have done to us with plaid backing I give up with you lot I’m while wait until May and see Reform UK Wales win everything 

  2. Reform has banned the Welsh flag. Remember the Senedd election is a contest between Plaid fighting for better services and Reform aiming to sell off our hospitals. Consider lending your vote to Plaid.

  3. Plaid have no regard for the Wales flag or Welsh people. They just want to entice cheap immigrant labour into the country for the farmers. They are more woke than Labour, and will miss out on another opportunity at next year’s Senydd elections because they just can’t ‘read the room’.

      • Wynn Phillips Welsh flags should always fly in Wales. We’re in France at the moment and what do we see, French flags. I don’t expect to see Welsh dragons flying everywhere.

      • Tara Fisher no problem with Welsh Flags. I’m proud of our beautiful flag which reminds me of what a great and welcoming country we live in. But the current spate of flags everywhere silly’s our nation by co-opting our heritage into the service of far right politicians like Farage who care only for their own wealth and power and don’t give a shit about Wales.

      • Wynn Phillips we are too welcoming and I think this is where the issue of this escalating has come from. And no that does make me racist or a far right. Farage is far from perfect but what has Plaid and Labour done for Wales, they are running us into the ground. Before long we will be outnumbered but the amount of immigrants with their beliefs and religion views implemented, with us having to go along with it. We have become weak as a country and people have had enough

      • Tara Fisher I trust that you have some well-evidenced research to back up your belief. In particular, it needs to take into account the massive role that immigrant workers have had in maintaining the economy of Wales. What has made Wales, and the rest of the UK, weak is the strangling of our economy by 14 years of tory austerity, forcing all the regions to make cut after cut, and leaving our economy in tatters. Now, where are all those tories headed? To Reform of course. To uphold the same right-wing bollocks that brought us Brexit and Austerity. The same ideology that stripped Billions from the UK economy and drove immigration to its highest ever rate. But now you want to blame immigrants, Labour, and Plaid for the shit show the Tories left us with, and your idea of a solution is to give power to a party which preaches hatred and division but has no coherent policies and is funded by billionaire public school hedge fund managers. Like I said, you’d better have some bloody good evidence for such a self-destructive view.

      • Tara Fisher Family Arguments about Asylum Seekers? Here are all of the facts you need to serve at the dinner table.
        Talking about asylum seekers with family and friends can be tough. Often, opinions are loud but the facts are missing and shaped by headlines rather than evidence. It’s easy for myths to spread when people don’t check their sources.
        The most effective way to respond isn’t with more opinion, but with calm, clear facts. By keeping the conversation grounded in real numbers and simple questions, you can gently challenge assumptions and make space for people to think differently.
        📌 Key Facts About Asylum Seekers in the UK
        🟢 Asylum seekers and refugees together make up less than one percent of the UK population — around one in every two hundred people. By comparison, countries like France, Germany and Italy take far more people seeking asylum each year.
        🟢 Seeking asylum is not illegal. It is a human right under the 1951 Refugee Convention, which the UK helped to write and signed. There is also no law saying people must claim asylum in the first country they reach. Many come to the UK because they already have family here, speak the language, or have community ties that will help them rebuild their lives.
        🟢 Contrary to headlines, asylum seekers are not “draining” the system. In 2023/24, the UK government spent around £4.7 billion on asylum support. That sounds like a lot, but it represents less than 0.4% of total government spending — under 40p out of every £100. Most of that money does not go to asylum seekers themselves, who live on about £6 per day, but to hotel chains, landlords and outsourcing companies who run the housing contracts and make millions in profit.
        🟢 Asylum seekers are not responsible for the housing crisis either. Britain is short of more than a million homes, a shortage on a scale far greater than the roughly 370,000 asylum seekers in the country. The crisis comes from decades of under-building, speculation, and policy decisions.
        🟢 Their impact on the NHS and schools is also tiny. Less than 0.5% of the population cannot be the cause of waiting lists, overstretched surgeries, or crowded classrooms. Those pressures are the result of long-term underinvestment and staff shortages.
        🟢 The idea that they are “all young men” is misleading too. Many are families, women and children. Often it is the men who risk the most dangerous journeys first, with the aim of applying for family reunion to bring wives and children safely. Safe routes have been closed off, which forces people to take risks they would rather avoid.
        🟢 The majority of asylum claims are genuine. In 2023, about three quarters of claims were approved, showing that most applicants really are fleeing war, persecution or dictatorship in countries such as Afghanistan, Syria, Eritrea, Sudan and Iran.
        The truth is clear: it is mathematically impossible for less than one percent of the population to cause Britain’s major national problems. Asylum seekers are not the cause of these crises — they are simply the people being scapegoated while the real reasons, such as underinvestment and political decisions, go unchallenged.
        Sources for Key Facts:
        Home Office Immigration Statistics (official UK data on asylum numbers and approvals)�👉 https://www.gov.uk/…/immigration-statistics-quarterly…
        Migration Observatory, University of Oxford (clear analysis of asylum, immigration and myths)�👉 https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/…/asylum-and…/
        House of Commons Library (neutral research on asylum spending and government expenditure)�👉 https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research…/cbp-9852/
        UNHCR UK (UN Refugee Agency facts and context for asylum seekers’ rights)�👉 https://www.unhcr.org/uk/asylum-in-the-uk
        National Audit Office (on asylum accommodation costs and contracts)�👉 https://www.nao.org.uk/…/asylum-accommodation-and-support/
        *We know some will claim this is untrue, but every fact here comes from refugee agencies, parliamentary briefings and official/direct guidance. These are 100% official, verifiable sources, not hearsay, headlines or rumour.

      • Wynn Phillips I’m not talking about legal immigrants, they are welcome everywhere and I agree they have contributed so much to Wales even more so our NHS, it’s illegal immigrants I am talking about here. Being housed when our own ex veterans are on the streets, it’s diabolical. Labour have been in power for 26 years with support of Plaid and what good has it done. I’m sure based on your interest in the matter you must have reams of evidence to back up your views.

      • Tara Fisher I think you’re confused. The only “illegal” immigrants who get housed are asylum seekers awaiting the processing of their claims. Any other “Unauthorised migrants face strict restrictions on their rights in the UK, particularly after the introduction of ‘hostile environment’ policies in the early 2010s. This means that people without legal status cannot get a job, rent a house, open a bank account, or have a driving licence in the UK. In addition, unauthorised migrants are not permitted to access social security benefits like Universal Credit or key public services like social housing. Free access to specialist or hospital treatment is also limited to those with legal residence in the UK.” If you have evidence of non-asylum-seeking immigrants being housed by the UK taxpayer, I’d like to see it.

    • Tara Fisher they are illegal where they have been put up, all councils have to remove them at our expense 😡🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿❤️

      • Julian Bonnebaigt, there are very few illegal immigrants. Those that are here are not in funded accommodation. It is not illegal to be an asylum seeker waiting for your asylum claim to be processed.

  4. And so it begins! Reform UK telling a Welsh county what they can and cannot do, knowing full well that these flags were put up illegally by far right extremist thugs like Voice of Wales (who are the backbone of Reform) and have weaponised the flag of Wales.

      • Andrew Evans illegally, weaponised Welsh flags. Shame on anyone who would use our national flag in this way, and shame on you for not seeing it for what it is.

      • Cheryl Jones How do you weaponise a flag? Does it have a gun?
        You should be ashamed of yourself for wanting the dragon taken down. Oh sorry, would you prefer an Iraqi, Iranian, Syrian or Palestinian one instead? Our country is fast losing its identity due to illegal migration. If our flags upset anyone, they can f#@* off somewhere else. You should be ashamed to want the flags pulled down.

      • Andrew Evans well said. It seems it’s OK to fly the flag of another nation but not our own. Throughout history the flag (English, Welsh, Scottish & Irish) has been used as a point to rally to, both civilian and military. Many nations like the US always fly their flag as a show of national pride but here in the UK anyone that does is called far right. Some folks that “demand” the flags are removed are not proud of their heritage, do not support it and seem to be embarrassed by it. It makes me wonder if they deserve a place in our society……

    • Cheryl Jones so anyone who feels just slightly patriotic is a far right extremist? Sound like you are a far left extremist. Are people not allowed to be patriotic because if offends snowflakes like you? Here is a bit of news for you. Not all patriots are extremists, 99% are PROUD of their country. Nothing elese just PROUD

      • Martin Lindsay then why were these flags put up by “Voice of Wales” and their followers? Voice of Wales are a far right extremist group of thugs closely affiliated with every other far right extremist group in England.

      • Cheryl Jones and your proof that voice of Wales are behind it? I know several folks who are flying pur flag and have NO connection to V.O.W. Typical of far left extremist snowflakes crying because there are people with differing views which we are permitted under freedom of speech. Far-canal talk about “WOKE” 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

      • Cheryl Jones only fool here is you, like I said not ALL the flags are being put up by V.O.W. I know people who have been flying the flag for years. What you are suffering from is mis-appropriation of national identity.

      • Martin Lindsay well said mate. The red dragon flies in my garden and god help anyone who wants it taken down. Proud to be Welsh, proud to be British 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🇮🇪

  5. I don’t need a cheap Welsh flag made in China, tied halfway up a lamppost by people who essentially support an English nationalist party born out of Thatchers establishment, preaching to me about being patriotic.
    You should support the Welsh language,Welsh culture and Welsh history 365 days a year.
    It’s sad ,devisive bandwagon bull**it promoted by those who look to cause devision in our communities.

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